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- Date: Wed, 10 Nov 93 16:30:16 PST
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1333
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 10 Nov 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1333
-
- Today's Topics:
- 80m on 20m dipole
- Amateur Radio Newsline #847
- Falicy of poor generalization. (Was 'Vanity' Call Signs, now paying fo
- Kenwood address - info needed
- Looking for Hammarlund manual (mine has 3 pages missing!)
- MACINTOSH, HAM,
- Modify a TV antenna?
- need qsl route for ZL2K (cq WW)
- Observations on Kenwood TH-78
- Poor audio fix for HTs
- Questions about Yaesu FT-411E
- Readership Report for the Radio-Related Usenet Newsgroups
- RS Preferred Customer (Re: Fun with Radio Shack)
- This Week On Spectrum
-
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-
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-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 93 19:18:12 GMT
- From: news.cs.indiana.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!news@rutgers.rutgers.edu
- Subject: 80m on 20m dipole
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Previously on rec.radio.amateur. misc we heard...
-
- > You are correct. The only case that wire feeders in the shack are when
- > ^^^^^^^^^
- the antena presents a high impeadence load and the the feeders are an
- > half wave or a
- > multiple half wave length long.
-
- ============================
-
- High line currents don't necessarily give "rf in the shack". It depends
- on how far from the line the electromagnetic waves are significantly
- strong. You think that if ur using coax, there's no problem. Not if the
- coax sees a load which causes external fields on the OUTSIDE of the braid.
-
- A low impedance load will do what the above suggests too.
-
- 73 de Jack, K9CUN
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 15:00:17 GMT
- From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!news@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline #847
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2bnrvv$jn1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
- wvanhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William E Van Horne) writes:
- > M.Willis@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Mike Willis) writes:
- >
- > >> NEWSLINE RADIO - CBBS EDITION #97 - POSTED 11/05/93
- >
- > >What 11th May ! This is old stuff, why post it now in November?
- >
- > >Mike
- >
- > Columbus, Ohio 11\09\93
- >
- > I believe it was Shaw who said something like: "Britain and the
- > U.S. are two countries separated by a common language".
- >
- > They are also separated by the fact that Brits always write
- > their dates backwards! :-)
- >
- > 73, Van - W8UOF
- > wvanhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
-
- And they don't drive on the right side of the road! :-)
-
- 73... Mark AA7TA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 93 01:28:35 GMT
- From: spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!atha!aupair.cs.athabascau.ca!rwa@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Falicy of poor generalization. (Was 'Vanity' Call Signs, now paying fo
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- dadams@cray.com (David Adams) writes:
-
- >[sorry, botched the attrib; Ross] writes:
-
- >|things, this argument is absurd. To say that kids would not be able to
- >|afford a cost roughly equivalent to the cost of a CD makes me laugh. Go to
- >|N3OXM
-
- >This is like saying that given the millions that all these OMs spend on
- >Yaesu, ICOM, and Kenwood equipment, it is absurd to think that all hams
- >can not afford new TS-50s.
-
- Is it? This is a leap of rather a large order. If $15 is keeping
- someone (even a child) out of the hobby, they have much worse problems
- which they should deal with ASAP, and get their lives into order.
-
- >Think.
-
- I am. Hell, I made $20/week back in the 60's, as a 12 year old. I
- had a good sized newspaper route. Has the economy collapsed utterly?
- Why do I see so many kids wearing $100 sneakers?
-
- Americans talk a wonderful line about self-determination, go-getting,
- and the wonders of the free market. Then they turn around and moan
- about paying pocket change for a license. Wake up you WANKs, the rest
- of the world thinks of you as whiners.
-
- regards,
- Ross ve6pdq
- --
- Ross Alexander,rwa@cs.athabascau.ca,(403) 675 6311,ve6pdq@nebulus.ampr.ab.ca
- "Arguably worse, the compiler can produce any result it deems fit, up
- to and including the start of World War III (assuming the right
- optional hardware has been installed)." -- Fortran FAQ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 06:44:25 GMT
- From: saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk!hkuxb.hku.hk!hkuxa.hku.hk!pckwong@ames.arpa
- Subject: Kenwood address - info needed
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Jonathan Bucki (buckij@mari.acc.stolaf.edu) wrote:
- : Greetings,
- :
- : I haven't used my HT for about a year and a half. When I dug it out of the
- : box I found that I didn't have the manual. Could someone either post
- : or send me Kenwood's USA address? Or if there is an electronic version of
- : the TH-26AT manual somewhere, where can I find it?
- :
- : jonathan bucki
- : n9mks
- :
- : p.s. if you own one of these, and are feeling a bit kind, please send me
- : a few instructions, I'm completely lost and I don't know anyone who has
- : a TH-26AT in this area.
- :
- It's that simple, go to a HAM shop, check from some later KENWOOD models,
- find out the address from the manual, or tell the story and seek for help.
- It's that simple. Good luck!
-
- 73, VS6XVI
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Nov 93 23:21:28 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!ceylon!bunny!jp07@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Looking for Hammarlund manual (mine has 3 pages missing!)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm looking for someone with the "Instruction and Service Information" manual
- for a Hammarlund HX-500 Transmitter. My copy is missing pages 13, 14, &
- 37 (a schematic). If you can help out, via fax or mail, I'll pre-pay the
- phone call or postage.
- Thanks for any help. -Jim.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 7 Nov 93 17:30:53 GMT
- From: psinntp!wlnntp.psi.com!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: MACINTOSH, HAM,
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Or... feel free to e-mail direct and I'll forward you my latest version
- that I am working on.
-
- I am updating the list mentioned by Scott... and will have the latest
- version out to the net real soon. I am only posting the list to the net
- when there are significant changes. There are a couple of new entries
- this month... stay tuned.
-
- >DATE: Sun, 31 Oct 1993 13:52:23 GMT
- >FROM: Scott Ehrlich <wy1z@chopin.coe.northeastern.edu>
- >
- >In article <1993Oct28.204450.11696@krk.fi> tofi@krk.fi (Kristoffer H{ggstr|m) writes:
- >
- > Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
- > Path: lynx!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!pipex!sunic!trane.uninett.no!news.eunet.no!nuug!news.eunet.fi!fuug!krk!krksun.krk.fi!tofi
- > From: tofi@krk.fi (Kristoffer H{ggstr|m)
- > Sender: usenet@krk.fi
- > Nntp-Posting-Host: krksun.krk.fi
- > Organization: Radio Club of Kauniainen (OH2NRG)
- > X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9]
- > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1993 20:44:50 GMT
- > Lines: 12
- >
- > Hi there!!
- >
- > I would like to know if there is any programs on the Macintosh
- > to help HAMs to keep their log?????
- >
- > ----
- >
- > Kristoffer H{ggstr|m
- > tofi@krk.fi
- >
- > PS. please reply to my personal address.
- >
- >Sorry, but I have opted to post to Usenet for the benefit of everyone
- >else.
- >
- >I'm not sure where logging programs for the Macintosh might reside, but
- >the ARRL has a nice listing of s/w available for the Mac.
- >
- >You can get the info via e-mail from: info@arrl.org, with the body of the
- >message containing: send software-mac
- >
- >or you could FTP into: world.std.com, in the directory:
- >/pub/hamradio/arrl/Server-files
- >
- >The ARRL files on World are updated as often as the ARRL sends me the
- >updated versions of what they put on their server.
- >
- >Hope this helps.
- >
- >73,
- >Scott
- >
- >--
- >===============================================================================
- >| Scott Ehrlich Internet: wy1z@neu.edu |
- >| Amateur Radio: wy1z AX.25: wy1z@wa1phy.#ema.ma.usa.na |
- >|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------|
- >| Maintainer of the Boston Amateur Radio Club hamradio FTP area on |
- >| the World - world.std.com /pub/hamradio |
- >===============================================================================
-
- Terry M. Stader, KA8SCP, America Online (AOL) Ham Radio Club Host
- Macintosh Amateur Radio Software List Maintainer
- Internet: tstader@aol.com or p00489@psilink.com
- Packet: KA8SCP@WA1PHY.#EMA.MA.USA.NOAM
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 93 16:21:01 GMT
- From: ogicse!emory!darwin.sura.net!fconvx.ncifcrf.gov!fcs260c!mack@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Modify a TV antenna?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CGA8n6.4q0@ryn.mro4.dec.com> randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) writes:
- >
- >In article <jbruni.1103292162C@156.151.254.10>, jbruni@sfe.com (John R. Bruni) writes...
- >>Is it possible to modify a standard TV antenna (coax) to handle 2 meter
- >>xmit/rcv? I assume this would require a balun at the least...
- >
- >Yup, I'm in the process of doing this now. I'm not sure what exactly you mean
- >when you say "standard TV antenna", but I'm doing this to a rooftop-type TV
- >beam, which started life as a log-periodic. It's now a Yagi.
- >
- >The problems occur when you decide to transmit through what is a receive-only
- >antenna. If you feed it with coax, you'll need to somehow match the 50-ohm coax
- >to the ??-ohm antenna to get a decent SWR, and you'll need to figure out how to
- >do a balun. The TV balun will probably fry if you put any kind of wattage into
- >it, and it's for 75 ohm coax with F-connectors.
- >
- >2m would probably work ok on a full-size TV log periodic, once all of the above
- >is taken care of, since the VHF TV bands straddle the 2m band, and
- >log-periodics have continuous coverage from their highest to lowest freq.
- >
- >I decided to rebuild mine entirely, as I said it's now a 5-element Yagi. I'm
- >working on the balun/matching device now. I'm going with a 1/2-wave coax
- >balun and a hairpin match, after playing for several days with a gamma match
- >without much success. See the antenna handbook for details of these.
- >-Tom R. N1OOQ randolph@est.enet.dec.com
-
- Assuming the point is to have a 2m antenna, rather than the object being
- to modify an existing antenna, why not get a design (somewhere, ARRL handbook
- if nowhere else), by the boom feedthroughs and brackets from say Rutland
- Arrays (advertise in QST, Tom says he sells the hardware if you want it),
- buy some 6061 Al tubing and rod from your local metal tubing supply
- store (big cities only)and then you're at the point ofthe proevious writer
- above and put the hairpin on it. It's not trivial, but I imagine
- it's no harder than doing major surgery on an existing antenna.
-
- Joe MAck (NA3T)
- mack@ncifcrf.gov
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 93 16:31:02 GMT
- From: ogicse!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!jholly@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: need qsl route for ZL2K (cq WW)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- eric.s.hellman (hellman@cbnewsm.cb.att.com) wrote:
- : He's not in the 93 callbook (ZL2K)
- : tnx 73 Shel WA2UBK dara@physics.att.com
-
- For the simple reason its a contest call. QSL via bureau to ZL2IR.
- Jim Hollenback, WA6SDM
- jholly@cup.hp.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1993 06:34:56 GMT
- From: saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk!hkuxb.hku.hk!hkuxa.hku.hk!pckwong@ames.arpa
- Subject: Observations on Kenwood TH-78
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- FORRELL (FORRELL@130.187.198.34) wrote:
- : In <CFvzJ8.KDt@kaiwan.com> andrew@kaiwan.com writes:
- :
- : > dissappointed............ the disgustingly poor intermod rejection,
- : > the battery life was nil, even though it was a fresh battery that
- : > had been fully charged the day before. I think it died on me within
- : > about 4 hours, and I wasn't talking all that much.
- :
- :
- : I agree with your front end intermod observations, however, in my area
- : its not much of a problem. What is unusual is the poor battery performance.
- : I find it hard to run mine down! I have the 1100 ma extended battery pack
- : and it never seems to go down. I have owned several HT's and the TH-78
- : has the best battery life of anything I've owned.
- :
- : My only complaint with the thing is I can't remember how to do all the
- : features unless I have a manual with me.
-
- Why? Mine is completely different! The intermod rejection is between
- satisfy and good, you know, the VHF band from 138-174 (except 144-6 for
- HAMs) is fully utilized for commercial, so congest. I think HK is a good
- "test field" for HTs. About the battery discharge life, I use a 700mAH
- battery pack and it lasts 10 hr. of Rx and 4-5 hrs of operation on a mix
- of Tx/Rx. What's wrong on your TH-78A? Or the battery?
-
- Philips Wong, 73, VS6XVI
-
- :
- : Fred Orrell
- : WB5NOE
- :
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 93 22:08:49 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Poor audio fix for HTs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello everyone:
-
- A common complaint about the newer micro handhelds is the low volume audio.
- There is a fix to that problem, which I have applied to my Kenwood TH-78A.
- I use a CD Player-to-Cassette adapter (Radio Shack 12-1951), it plugs into
- the headphone jack of the HT and the adapter loads like a cassette into the
- car stereo system. With this setup one hears the HT audio amplified by the
- car stereo, so there is plenty of power available. Also it is possible to
- modify audio tone with the stereo controls.
-
- 73 de XE1RGL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1993 16:52:26 GMT
- From: munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hplextra!hpfcso!ajs@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Questions about Yaesu FT-411E
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- > ...the 411E has the Tone Encode/Decode board built-in, where it is
- > extra for the 411.
-
- My 411, at least, came with it already built in. I'm pretty sure the
- 411E addressed the poor (for the US anyway) choice of IF, by raising it
- and thereby reducing intermod.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1993 17:44:23 GMT
- From: library.ucla.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.unomaha.edu!news@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Readership Report for the Radio-Related Usenet Newsgroups
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The following is reprinted from news.lists, with only the radio-related
- newsgroups (and the first newsgroup for comparison) included.
-
- >From: reid@decwrl.DEC.COM (Brian Reid)
- >Newsgroups: news.lists
- >Subject: USENET Readership report for Oct 93
- >Date: 8 Nov 1993 15:26:14 GMT
- >Organization: DEC Network Systems Laboratory
- >Summary: data for all groups
- >Keywords: arbitron, statistics, full
-
- This is the full set of data from the USENET readership report for Oct 93.
- Explanations of the figures are in a companion posting.
-
- +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
- | +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
- | | +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
- | | | +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
- | | | | +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
- | | | | | +-- Crossposting percentage
- | | | | | | +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
- | | | | | | | +-- Share: % of newsrders
- | | | | | | | | who read this group.
- V V V V V V V V
- 1 470000 6439 90% 17 163.1 100% 0.00 12.6% news.announce.newusers
-
- 277 68000 927 77% 1594 3977.4 7% 0.07 1.8% rec.radio.amateur.misc
- 296 65000 888 77% 812 2035.3 9% 0.04 1.7% rec.radio.shortwave
- 393 59000 804 75% 488 534.3 5% 0.01 1.6% rec.radio.swap
- 657 45000 610 75% 585 1045.6 0% 0.03 1.2% rec.radio.amateur.policy
- 696 43000 589 60% 247 307.4 12% 0.01 1.1% alt.radio.scanner
- 864 38000 523 64% 151 897.1 4% 0.02 1.0% rec.radio.info
- 867 38000 522 76% 67 127.5 10% 0.00 1.0% rec.radio.noncomm
- 1018 34000 468 57% - - - - 0.9% rec.radio.amateur.packet
- 1024 34000 466 55% 158 251.8 11% 0.01 0.9% rec.radio.amateur.homebrew
- 1034 34000 462 73% 140 315.4 13% 0.01 0.9% rec.radio.cb
- 1048 33000 457 48% 532 911.3 17% 0.02 0.9% rec.radio.scanner
- 1082 32000 443 56% 376 796.4 8% 0.02 0.9% rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc
- 1113 31000 430 54% 312 525.5 1% 0.01 0.8% rec.radio.amateur.antenna
- 1125 31000 426 54% 98 209.7 1% 0.01 0.8% alt.radio.pirate
- 1164 30000 414 67% 414 947.3 1% 0.03 0.8% rec.radio.broadcasting
- 1194 30000 404 54% 207 296.6 6% 0.01 0.8% rec.radio.amateur.equipment
- 1202 29000 402 54% 139 590.5 49% 0.02 0.8% rec.radio.amateur.space
- 2025 15000 200 30% 121 153.0 0% 0.00 0.4% alt.radio.networks.npr
- 2111 13000 179 31% 9 6.2 22% 0.00 0.3% rec.ham-radio.swap
- 2128 13000 175 32% 4 4.3 0% 0.00 0.3% rec.ham-radio
- 2205 11000 155 28% 11 11.5 9% 0.00 0.3% rec.ham-radio.packet
-
-
- Several positive trends continue this month. Readership is up
- dramatically in all active newsgroups (closely following Usenet's
- predicted exponential growth patterns). The two top newsgroups,
- rec.radio.amateur.misc and rec.radio.shortwave, are roughly tied, as
- as they were last month. Other newsgroups with extremely strong
- showings are rec.radio.swap and rec.radio.amateur.policy (meeting their
- respective goals of keeping for-sale messages and extended legal
- debate out of the main discussion newsgroup). Currently,
- rec.radio.amateur.homebrew leads the other new rec.radio.amateur
- newsgroups by a significant margin. The recently-created
- rec.radio.scanner is slowly gaining in readership as well, and should
- eventually overtake alt.radio.scanner, which it supersedes. It is
- expected that the newly-created newsgroups will continue to grow in
- readership like previously-created newsgroups such as rec.radio.info
- and settle out at about 60-70% propagation. If these new radio-related
- newsgroups still haven't reached your site, please ask your news
- administrator to create them (refer him/her to the new newsgroup
- announcements by Dave Lawrence in news.announce.newgroups or the
- messages posted to the new newsgroups piling up in "junk" :-). Especially
- point out to him/her that cost/per-reader/per-month is significantly
- down in all newsgroups.
-
- The defunct newsgroup rec.radio.amateur.packet has been rmgrouped as of
- September 21st, 1993, and is no longer connected to the PACKET-RADIO
- mailing list. Netters interested in packet-radio discussion should use
- rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc and the HAM-DIGITAL mailing list.
- Propagation has started to gradually drop in the old newsgroup, down
- 2 points from last month. There is a Usenet Request for Discussion
- (RFD) tentatively scheduled for January 1994, to either reconsider the
- rec.radio.amateur.digital.tcp-ip vote, merge all digital interests into
- rec.radio.amateur.digital, or possibly even revert back to
- rec.radio.amateur.packet. Watch news.announce.newsgroups (or subscribe
- to the rec.radio.amateur Working Group mailing list at
- rra-wg-request@amdahl.com) for further developments.
-
- Note also that the defunct rec.ham-radio hierarchy reappears this month.
- If the newsgroups are still active at your site, please try to persuade your
- your news administrators to delete them as these groups have been rendered
- obsolete (for almost 3 years now) by the rec.radio.amateur hierarchy.
-
- --
- 73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU
-
- pschleck@unomaha.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 93 16:16:25 GMT
- From: dziuxsolim.rutgers.edu!gandalf.rutgers.edu!troch@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: RS Preferred Customer (Re: Fun with Radio Shack)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Collins WI3P <collinst@esvx19.es.dupont.com> writes:
-
- Thomas> I would not pay the $3.00. Instead I spent .29 on a
- Thomas> letter of complaint to RS at Fort Worth, TX and about
- Thomas> 3 weeks later what came in the mail. A RS catalog and
- Thomas> a letter of apology for the "shabby treatment" I
- Thomas> received in the store. It was sort of funny, I never
-
- I didn't pay for my catalog either. I didn't have to resort to writing
- to Radio Shack (albeit it does sound like a good idea any way) instead
- I used the free catalog coupon that came enclosed in the mail with
- my Radio Shack Preferred Customer Discount Card. (whew!)
-
- What makes me a "Preferred Customer" I don't know. Maybe that I pay
- for the things I buy! :-)
-
- gig'em,
- Rod
-
- --
- --PGP 2.3 Public Key Available (finger me or ask for it)
- If you yell try : Rod Troch | Zeta Beta Tau
- internet : troch@gandalf.rutgers.edu |
- bitnet : troch@zodiac | happyHappy joyJoy
- Rutgers University - Faculty of Arts and Sciences / History Dept.
- - Microcomputer Analyst (Network Admin)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 10 Nov 93 03:53:05 GMT
- From: starcomm!spectrum@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: This Week On Spectrum
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Spectrum is going "Down Below".
-
- This week on Spectrum we will feature an interview with Dave Curry. Dave is
- an expert on longwave communications and is active on the experimenters band,
- (160 through 190KHZ). We are going to talk about the frequency spectrum
- below the broadcast band and how you can build your own vlf experimental
- station.
-
- --
- Spectrum, "The Communications Magazine You Read With Your Ears."
- WWCR, Nashville, TN, USA, 5810 KHz.
- Lets Talk Radio Network, Spacenet III, Transponder 21, 5.8 MHz Wide Band Audio
- 03:00 UTC Sunday, 22:00 EST Saturday.
- Box 722, Holmdel, NJ, 07733-0722, USA
- spectrum@overleaf.com, askspectrum@attmail.com, spectrumshow@genie.geis.com
- +1 800-787-SPECTRUM, +1 908-671-4209
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1993 15:49:48 GMT
- From: yuma!galen@purdue.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2blvfq$6m6@pith.uoregon.edu>, <8NOV199313080974@zeus.tamu.edu>, <931108.79382.GREGL@delphi.com>usenet.i
- Subject : Re: Care and Feeding LARGE Gel-Cells?
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- In article <931108.79382.GREGL@delphi.com> Greg Law <GREGL@delphi.com> writes:
- >Somewhat along the same lines. . .
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- >I purchase two Panasonic LCR12V2.2P lead-acid batteries for use with the
- >HTX-202. These are fairly nice 2.2 amp/hour batteries that are about the same
- A little editing (he's using an automobile batt charger)
- >this charger seems to be working well but it's a manual type and I'm not
- >sure how long I should charge the batteries. What I've been doing is letting
- >the battery drop to about 10 to 10.5 volts then throwing it on the charger
- >and checking it every 30 minutes to an hour with a DMM. When the battery
- >voltage increases to about 12 volts, I remove them from the charger and
- >put them back in the carrying case.
- >
- >One thing is absolutely accurate: I could use some tips on charging lead-acid
- >batteries. The particular ones I have are stamped "Constant Voltage Charge"
- >with the ratings "cycle use: 14.6-15.0V and standby use: 13.6-13.8V." Inital
- >charge current is rated at 0.88A.
- > -- Greg KE4DPX
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- According to some info I have from PowerSonic(TM), a lead-acid battery is
- at 100% charge when the battery 'relaxes' to 12.75 volts. By 'relaxing', the
- voltage on the battery will drop after a charger is disconnected, leveling
- off at a certain voltage after some time. This level value is the 'relaxed'
- value.
- They have a small chart that lists 12.75 volts as 100%, going down to 12.2
- volts as 45%, each 0.05 volts corresponding to 5%. This would lead you to
- believe that any voltage below 11.75 volts as a dead battery. The literature
- goes on to say that the batteries should not have a large current draw when
- the voltage drops below 11.90 volts. It also says to get the longest life,
- keep the battery voltage at least 12.45 volts or 70% charge.
-
- See the article in the ARRL handbook (I have the 87 edition handy) titled
- "Controlled Battery Charger for Emergency Power Supplies". It has a charger
- circuit that controlls the charging voltage for deep cycle batteries.
-
- I charge mine with solar panels and a charge controller from SCI.
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- I would not use a battery that's below 12.0 volts under load. Sometimes
- they don't come all the way back up.
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- Fun is the operative concept here,
- Galen, KF0YJ
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